Born ‎8- Jun 1817 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎5- Aug 1857 Antwerpen, Belgium‎, 40 years. Daughter of Hijman Salomon Grewel-Cohen/ Braatbaar and Fijtje Mozes Krijn/ Brouwe‏

Born ‎28-9-1820, died ‎30-4-1883 Antwerpen, Belgium‎, 62 or 63 years. Son of Johannes Karsman and Marian van der Noort‏