Born ‎3- Sep 1912 Rotterdam, Netherland, died ‎19-9-1975 Leidschendam, Netherland‎, 62 or 63 years. Son of Willem Meininger/ Vi and Elsje Judels/ Slie‏

Born ‎28-2-1916 Rotterdam, Netherland, died ‎17-9-1989 The Hague, Netherland‎, 72 or 73 years