Born ‎11-11-1836 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎26-1-1908 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, 71 or 72 years. Son of Salomon Abraham Rubens and Clara Samuel van Tijn - Tal‏

Born ‎10-6-1870 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎16-4-1933 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, 62 or 63 years, ‎1st marriage to: Abraham Salomon Rubens/ van Tij, ‎2nd marriage to: Salomon Helmstadt - van Praag. Daughter of Hartog Moses Hakker/ Koo and Aaltje Alexander Springer/ Minnenkenhof‏