Born ‎27-3-1858 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎11-6-1930 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, 71 or 72 years. Son of Salomon Isaac Engelsman/ van Rooije and Judith Mozes Abrahams/ Gobe‏

Born ‎12-1-1865 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎7-12-1942 Auschwitz-Biala Podleska, Poland‎, 76 or 77 years. Daughter of Jacob Rodriguez and Hendrika van Gelder‏