Born ‎12-3-1894 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎28-5-1943 Sobibor-Biala Podleska, Poland‎, 48 or 49 years. Daughter of Simon van der Ven - Meijer and Branca Polak - de Vries‏

Born ‎20-7-1890 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎28-5-1943 Sobibor-Biala Podleska, Poland‎, 52 or 53 years, ‎1st marriage to: Elise van der Ven - Polak, ‎2nd marriage/ related to: Elsje Ancona - Wagenhuijzen. Son of Marcus van der Ven and Froukje Coster‏