Born ‎± 1874, died ‎before 1941‎. Son of Philip Ludel and Betje Gobetz‏

Born ‎25-6-1876 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎5- Mar 1943 Sobibor-Biala Podleska, Poland‎, 66 or 67 years. Daughter of Eliazer de Raaij - Cohen and Femmetje Springer - Walg‏