Born ‎1821 Zutphen, Netherland, died ‎6- Feb 1908 Hilversum, Netherland‎, 86 or 87 years. Daughter of Jacob Spier/ Salomo and Sibilla Mendels‏

Born ‎21-4-1823 Amesfoort, Netherland, died ‎3-12-1889 Hilversum, Netherland‎, 65 or 66 years. Occupation: Watch maker. Son of Israel David Schulman - Joseph and Saartje de Vries - Cohen‏