Born ‎14-5-1840 Leeuwarden-Friesland, Netherland‎. Daughter of Marcus\Markus Joseph Hartog Krammer/ Marcu and Betje Bela Izak van Messel‏

Born ‎8-JulY-1840 Leeuwarden-Friesland, Netherland, died ‎20-7-1925 Leeuwarden-Friesland, Netherland‎, 84 or 85 years, ‎1st marriage to: Elske Sara Esther Hartog - van Messel, ‎2nd marriage to: Sara Elske Hartog/ van Messe. Son of Benjamin Wolf Abraham Cohen/ Vellema and Hanna Channa Marcus Dwinger/ Drielsm‏