Born ‎7- Apr 1910 Komotan, died ‎25-11-1962 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, 51 or 52 years. Daughter of Richard Konirsch and Margarethe Goldmann‏

Born ‎3- Sep 1903 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎10-3-1985 Meerssen, Netherland‎, 81 or 82 years, ‎1st marriage/ related to: Zimira Biedermann - Moses, ‎2nd marriage to: Wilhelmina Konirsch - Goldmann. Son of Simon Wolff/ Fran and Estella (Esther) van Gelder/ Simon‏