Born ‎22-7-1884 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎29-7-1963 Blaricum, Netherland‎, 78 or 79 years. Son of Emanuel Abraham Joachimsthal/ Harto and Betje Aptroot/ Drielsm‏

Born ‎22-2-1899 Zwolle, Netherland, died ‎28-8-1975 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, 75 or 76 years. Daughter of Jan Bonzink and Maaike Groll‏